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President Donald Trump reunited with his former personal lawyer-turned-bitter enemy, Michael Cohen, for a Thursday radio interview in an unexpected twist to their years-long saga that now includes a “forgiveness” chapter.
Cohen told Fox News Digital that the conversation lasted 40 minutes and will be aired in two parts. The man who was a key witness in two New York cases against Trump also penned a Substack detailing the stunning reunion that will be their first public conversation in nearly a decade.
The former Trump fixer wrote that his inbox has been flooded with hate mail since it was announced that the president would appear on his radio show, with many “righteous keyboard crusaders” who proudly display a deep Christian faith in their social media bios piling on the criticism.
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President Donald Trump and Michael Cohen. (Getty Images)
“One minute, they’re posting inspirational memes about divine love and turning the other cheek. The next, they’re screaming into my digital throat with enough fury to melt the screen. There is a word for that. Irony,” Cohen wrote.
“Colossians 3:13 says: ‘Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you,’” he continued. “That verse isn’t merely some theological footnote to what is happening between Donald Trump and me. It is the foundation of it.”
Earlier this year, Cohen said he felt “pressured and coerced” by New York Attorney General Letitia James and Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg to deliver testimony that would help build cases against his former boss.
Cohen wrote in his latest entry that he has repeatedly been asked, “How can two men who spent years in a very public war, who hurled verbal missiles across an enormous legal and political canyon, ever sit down together again?”
“The answer is actually much simpler than people want it to be. We forgave. Not because the past didn’t happen. Not because the scars disappeared. Not because every disagreement suddenly became irrelevant. And certainly not because I have forgotten anything. I haven’t. Forgiveness doesn’t require amnesia. It requires the courage to stop allowing yesterday to dictate tomorrow,” Cohen wrote.
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Michael Cohen was an MSNBC regular during his feud with President Donald Trump. (MSNBC)
Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018 to lying to Congress, as well as campaign finance violations and tax evasion charges, around work he did for Trump. He was sentenced to three years in prison, eventually finishing his sentence in home confinement.
Cohen, a frequent guest on liberal cable news programs while he was a key member of the #Resistance, said in his Substack that society is addicted to “permanent outrage,” but Americans shouldn’t build identities around “the people we hate.”
“Donald Trump and I spent roughly fifteen years in the trenches together. We built relationships, shared victories, endured setbacks and pursued a path that ultimately reached the highest office on Earth. Then everything exploded,” Cohen wrote.
It’s a long way from May 30, 2024, when Cohen’s first interview after Trump’s conviction in his New York hush money case was with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow.
“It’s accountability. It’s exactly what America needs right now,” he told Maddow.
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Michael Cohen was Donald Trump’s personal attorney for years before their high-profile fallout. (Photo by Yana Paskova/Getty Images)
Cohen said this week he decided the past was not going to “own the future” and that “reconciliation doesn’t mean rewriting history.” As a result, Trump and his former ally will have a discussion few would have expected after their bitter public feud.
“You don’t have to like Donald Trump. You don’t even have to believe that forgiveness is possible. But listen before you judge. Because history isn’t made only through elections, wars, betrayals and political bloodletting. Sometimes history is made in a much quieter way,” Cohen wrote.
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The first part of the interview will air Thursday at 6 p.m. ET on 77WABC. It is available on WABC Radio, WABCRadio.com and on the 77WABC app. The remainder will air on Cohen’s “When You Know… You Know” on Sunday night at 5 p.m. ET.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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