Owen Jones clashes with Jeremy Vine in heated Brexit debate as he bemoans 'no deal cliff'


Guardian columnist Owen Jones clashed with the presenter on Jeremy Vine on 5 as the panel discussed Brexit. The discussion came after a ComRes survey of more than 2000 people saw 44 percent of people back the proroguing of Parliament to ensure Britain leaves the EU on October 31. Speaking on the show, Owen Jones said: “In the referendum, whatever side you are on, it is about Parliamentary sovereignty, wasn’t it? That is what we were told.

“It was to make the British Parliament sovereign again. Shutting it down and proroguing that, doesn’t seem exactly consistent with that.

“Also, you are right, I am fed up talking about it. I want to talk about poverty, the NHS, that kind of stuff…but if we go off a no deal cliff, we will be talking about it, it won’t just suddenly go away.

“We will have to go back to the EU but we will be in a much weaker place. We are going to be talking about Brexit for years and years, that is one of the consequences of the referendum.

“Just saying, ‘I am bored of it, I am going to jump off a cliff’, doesn’t seem like the wisest.”

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Speaking on the panel, TV personality Lizzie Cundy, said: “I am just saying, 17.4 million voted to Leave, do we forget?

“16.1 million voted to stay. That is still a difference of 1.3 million. This has to happen.”

Before the host could interject, the Guardian columnist quickly said: “But, they didn’t vote for no deal.”

As the presenter tried to move the segment on, Vine said: “Well, Parliament is Remain and the public is Leave, and that is the bottom line.”

But, the poll removed the ‘don’t knows’ from the survey, which made up 19 percent, and adjusted the remaining percentages accordingly.

In the original survey, 37 percent voted against the Prime Minister forcing Brexit by any means necessary through the Commons.

So, with the figure adjusted, it was concluded that 54 percent of British adults believe Parliament should be suspended to prevent MPs from stopping a no deal Brexit.

The Prime Minister has said the backstop mechanism within the withdrawal agreement must be removed to ensure talks between the UK and EU can resume, but so far the bloc has stood firm.

Formal talks with Brussels are unlikely to resume before an EU summit on October 17, according to government sources.

A spokesman for the Prime Minister said: “I would hope that the EU now fully understands the UK’s determination to leave the EU on Oct 31, no ifs or buts. We stand ready to negotiate.”


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