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Any tie Bryan Kohberger has to 'Pappa Rodger' could become clear when gag order is lifted

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The mysterious figure emerged in late 2022 in a Facebook group dedicated to the discussion of the Idaho student murders case — and vanished around the time of Kohberger’s arrest on Dec. 30 of that year, prompting speculation that the account could have been linked to the killer.

In the final weeks of 2022, the account emerged in a large Facebook group dedicated to seeking justice for the victims: University of Idaho students Madison Mogen, 21, Kaylee Goncalves, 21, Xana Kernodle, 20, and Ethan Chapin, 20.

Authorities have made no public comments or court filings linking Kohberger to the account. But with the gag order preventing most extrajudicial discussion of the case expected to end soon, authorities could finally address posts from the account — or the public could find out through unsealed search warrant returns, discovery disclosures, or digital forensics from Kohberger’s devices.

“At the very least, we might see warrant requests for social media accounts,” said Joshua Ritter, a former Los Angeles prosecutor and host of “Courtroom Confidential.” “Which would indicate they had the same suspicions.”

IDAHO JUDGE URGED TO REMOVE GAG ORDER ON KOHBERGER CASE FOLLOWING QUADRUPLE MURDER PLEA

Bryan Kohberger in a red jail jumpsuit being escorted by a deputy into a Pennsylvania courthouse

Bryan Kohberger arrives at a Pennsylvania courthouse for an extradition hearing in January 2023. He pleaded guilty to the murders of four University of Idaho students on Jul. 1, 2025 (The Image Direct for Fox News Digital)

Previously released court records show authorities sought information from dozens of tech companies, including Amazon, Google and Meta, Facebook’s parent company. The records they received remain unclear.

Using a profile photo that appeared to show a man in an old-fashioned military uniform that some have suggested looks similar to Kohberger’s actual appearance, the account was known for cryptic posts about specific evidence, including a reference to a knife sheath before police revealed they recovered one.

Some observers — in Moscow and beyond — believe Kohberger was behind the account. Especially since no one has come forward and claimed responsibility in the three years he’s been behind bars. But posts from the account have largely vanished.

BRYAN KOHBERGER BELIEVED HE COMMITTED ‘THE PERFECT MURDERS’ UNTIL ONE KEY MISTAKE SHATTERED HIS PLOT: AUTHOR

Idaho students' final photo

Madison Mogen, top left, smiles on the shoulders of her best friend, Kaylee Goncalves, as they pose with Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, and two other housemates in Goncalves’ final Instagram post, shared the day before the four students were stabbed to death. (@kayleegoncalves/Instagram)

Screenshots taken before the account was taken down show Pappa Rodger predicted that the killer left behind a knife sheath as early as Nov. 30, 2022. Although a Ka-Bar knife had already been identified as a potential murder weapon and other people said they had already speculated about a sheath by then, it was the phrasing that set off alarm bells for one of the administrators. 

“He also didn’t say ‘a sheath’ — he said ‘the sheath,’ which is really eerie,” said Kristine Cameron, one of the people behind the “University of Idaho Murders – Case Discussion” group on Facebook.

READ BRYAN KOHBERGER’S SIGNED KILLER CONFESSION

A screenshot of a facebook post from "Pappa Rodger"

A screenshot of a Facebook post by “Pappa Rodger” made on Nov. 30, 2022. (Courtesy of Kristine Cameron)

On Dec. 5, 8 and 21, the account posted diagrams of the King Road home that purported to show the locations of the bodies. 

However — based on statements from Prosecuting Attorney Bill Thompson made in court at Kohberger’s plea hearing — the locations appear incorrect. He said Chapin had been killed in his sleep in Kernodle’s room — not in the living room like Pappa Rodger asserted.

“As the defendant was either coming down the stairs or leaving, he encountered Xana, and he ended up killing her, also with a large knife,” Thompson told the court on July 1, 2025. “Ethan Chapin, Xana’s boyfriend, was asleep in their bedroom — in her bedroom. And the defendant killed him as well.”

IDAHO VICTIM’S MOTHER FINDS UNEXPECTED PEACE IN KILLER’S CONTROVERSIAL PLEA DEAL

Pappa Rodger's diagram of the Idaho student murders crime scene

Pappa Rodger’s diagram of the Idaho student murders crime scene, as seen in a Dec. 21, 2022 Facebook post. (Courtesy of Kristine Cameron)

On Dec. 22, the account asserted that, “The killer is not in the victims (sic) immediate circle,” and, “The killer is not a student.” Kohberger was not friends with any of the victims and attended a different school nearby, Washington State University.

On Jan. 5, 2023, Cameron told Fox News Digital Pappa Rodger’s chats and posts had been “wiped from FB.”

“The night prior to Bryan getting arrested, Pappa Rodger was going back and forth with another member, calling the member names,” she said at the time. “We had spoken to him numerous times about the way he was talking.”

BRYAN KOHBERGER PLEADS GUILTY TO IDAHO MURDERS

King Road home at night pictured before the victims' cars were towed out of the driveway

Exterior evening shot of murder scene on king road at night during a quadruple murder investigation. (Derek Shook for Fox News Digital)

She recalled the poster challenging other users to “fight me” and grading comments “like a professor.”

“His particular post that asked how long the killer was in the house caused all kinds of speculation, but he was adamant that the killer was in the house for 15 minutes,” she added. Most people doubted four slayings could’ve been carried out in that span, she said, but it’s close to what prosecutors would later allege in court documents.

IDAHO MURDERS TIMELINE: BRYAN KOHBERGER PLEA CAPS YEARSLONG QUEST FOR JUSTICE

Then the posts stopped around the time of Kohberger’s arrest, she said, and to this day she believes the killer could have been behind the account.

University of Idaho victims Madeline Mogen, Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, and Kaylee Goncalves

The victims of Nov. 13 University of Idaho massacre, from left to right: Kaylee Goncalves, Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle and Madison Mogen. (Instagram)

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Kohberger himself did not respond to a question about the account from Fox News Digital for this story.

“Until prosecutors or law enforcement come forward, I’m gonna go ahead and speculate that Pappa Rodger is Bryan Kohberger,” said Lauren Conlin, a PopCrimeTV host who has been closely following the case.

In a new book by crime fiction legend James Patterson and investigative journalist Vicky Ward, the authors compared Kohberger directly to Elliott Rodger, a mass murderer who killed six students near the University of California, Santa Barbara, and injured 14 other people in May 2014.

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“No one knows that, like Rodger, Bryan is a virgin who hates women,” the book reads. “No one knows that Bryan copes with loneliness by immersing himself in video games. Like Rodger, he goes for night drives. Like Rodger, he visits the gun range. And, like Rodger, he goes to a local bar and tries to pick up women.”

A close-up of Elliot Rodger wearing a black shirt.

An undated photo of murder suspect Elliot Rodger is seen at a press conference by the Santa Barbara County Sheriff in Goleta, California May 24, 2014. Rodger, 22, went on a rampage in Isla Vista near the University of California at Santa Barbara campus, stabbed three people to death at his apartment before shooting to death three more in a terrorizing crime spree through the neighborhood.  (ROBYN BECK/AFP via Getty Images)

Elliot Rodger, 22, wrote a 137-page manifesto airing his grievances as an “involuntary celibate,” or incel, and social outcast. Kohberber, to the dismay of many members of the public and some victims’ families, did not explain a motive for his crimes when he pleaded guilty on July 1, weeks before his trial would have kicked off.

Some of Rodger’s victims were members of their school’s Greek life — as were all of Kohberger’s.

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Rodger killed himself after the murder spree. Kohberger nearly got away with his. Authorities said they didn’t even have his name until more than a month after the murders, after the FBI used investigative genetic genealogy techniques to come up with a new lead based on the single-source DNA sample taken from the Ka-Bar sheath.

Kohberger wearing a red jail issue jumpsuit

Bryan Kohberger arrives at Monroe County Courthouse in Pennsylvania in advance of highly anticipated extradition hearing. He’s charged with the murders of four University of Idaho students. (The Image Direct for Fox News Digital)

Eleven days later, they had Kohberger in handcuffs. 

The plea deal took the potential death penalty off the table. Kohberger is expected to receive four consecutive life prison sentences plus another 10 years at a formal sentencing hearing on July 23. As part of the deal, he waived his right to appeal or seek a sentence reduction.

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A hearing on whether the court should lift the gag order before sentencing is scheduled for Thursday.

Fox News’ Stephanie Nolasco and The Associated Press contributed to this report.



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